Legislature(2023 - 2024)ADAMS 519

05/11/2023 01:30 PM House FINANCE

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02:08:33 PM Start
02:09:51 PM SB55 CS FOR SENATE BILL NO. 55(FIN)
02:26:55 PM HB193
02:42:53 PM HB89
03:31:58 PM Adjourn
* first hearing in first committee of referral
+ teleconferenced
= bill was previously heard/scheduled
-- Recessed to 8:00 am 5/12/23 --
-- Delayed to 30 Minutes After Session --
+ SB 41 APPROP: CAPITAL/SUPPLEMENTAL TELECONFERENCED
<Pending Referral>
Scheduled but Not Heard
+ Bills Previously Heard/Scheduled TELECONFERENCED
+ SB 55 EXTND BDS: MEDICAL, DIRECT-ENTRY MIDWIVES TELECONFERENCED
Moved SB 55 Out of Committee
*+ HB 193 INTERNET FOR SCHOOLS TELECONFERENCED
Heard & Held
+ HB 89 DAY CARE ASSIST./CHILD CARE GRANT PROGRAM TELECONFERENCED
Heard & Held
HOUSE BILL NO. 193                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     "An Act relating to funding for Internet services for                                                                      
     school districts; and providing for an effective                                                                           
     date."                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
2:26:55 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE   BRYCE  EDGMON,   CO-CHAIR,  HOUSE   FINANCE                                                                    
COMMITTEE, SPONSOR, reviewed that  the bill that would allow                                                                    
for improved  internet services  for schools  qualifying for                                                                    
the  federal E-rate  across the  state.  The E-rate  program                                                                    
flowed  down through  the  federal Communication  Commission                                                                    
Universal  Services Fund  to the  state broadband  programs.                                                                    
The federal matching rate for Alaska  was $8 to $9 for every                                                                    
state dollar put  forward. He explained the  program got its                                                                    
start in Alaska with  the state Broadband Assistance [Grant]                                                                    
(BAG) program put  into law in 2014 to implement  a speed of                                                                    
10  megabytes   [megabits]  per  second.  For   context,  he                                                                    
referenced  individuals in  the Capitol  Building who  could                                                                    
not access their  internet recently. He had  been told their                                                                    
current speed  was about  5 megabytes  per second.  He asked                                                                    
members  to  imagine  how  slow 10  megabits  would  be.  He                                                                    
relayed that in  2020 the legislature upped  the 10 megabits                                                                    
per second  threshold to  25 megabits  per second.  The bill                                                                    
proposed to increase the number to 10 megabytes.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Edgmon asked  committee  members to  keep in  mind                                                                    
that  the  committee heard  a  bill  setting up  the  Alaska                                                                    
Broadband Office,  the advisory committee,  and establishing                                                                    
the  framework  in  statute  to  open  opportunities  for  a                                                                    
massive  amount of  incoming federal  money to  provide high                                                                    
speed, affordable,  and equitable broadband services  to all                                                                    
user groups  across the state.  The current bill  before the                                                                    
committee addressed  the numerous  schools hampered  by slow                                                                    
internet  without  the   ability  to  do  videoconferencing,                                                                    
standardized testing, basic emails  and coursework. The bill                                                                    
proposed  to increase  the threshold  from  25 megabits  per                                                                    
second to 100  megabits per second. He was  told there would                                                                    
be  a  bill from  the  other  body  possibly coming  to  the                                                                    
committee soon.  The intent  of the  current hearing  was to                                                                    
explain the big picture to the committee.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
2:30:47 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Coulombe stated  that  she  had chaired  the                                                                    
Department of  Education and Early  Development subcommittee                                                                    
and it  was obvious  the upgrade needed  to take  place. She                                                                    
noted schools  were really struggling.  She observed  that a                                                                    
backup  document primarily  showed GCI  and ACS  [as service                                                                    
providers]. She  asked if  Starlink could  be used  with the                                                                    
grants  or  if  the  BAG  program  was  limited  to  certain                                                                    
providers.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
LAIB  ALLENSWORTH,   STAFF,  REPRESENTATIVE   BRYCE  EDGMON,                                                                    
replied  that the  contracts were  individually bid  upon by                                                                    
school  districts and  districts were  able to  choose their                                                                    
provider. He  was not  certain about  Starlink's involvement                                                                    
and  whether it  had the  capacity to  provide the  level of                                                                    
service provided for a school district.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Edgmon added  that the  program would  provide the                                                                    
flexibility to  work with GCI or  ACS and to ensure  the 100                                                                    
megabits per second threshold  included download speeds (the                                                                    
signal coming to  the school) and upload  speeds (the signal                                                                    
leaving the  school). He stated  that perhaps in  some cases                                                                    
Starlink  could provide  the service,  but there  were other                                                                    
instances where GCI and ACS would provide the service.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Hannan was  startled to  learn the  specific                                                                    
download  rate was  set in  statute. She  reasoned that  the                                                                    
statute  would need  to  be updated  every  couple of  years                                                                    
because no one  decreased in speed needs. She  recalled as a                                                                    
teacher  when   there  had  been  mandatory   state  testing                                                                    
conducted online, but schools had  been unable to plug their                                                                    
students  in on  the same  day  or time.  She supported  and                                                                    
believed faster  internet and a  grant program  were needed.                                                                    
She asked if  there was a mechanism to avoid  having to make                                                                    
a statutory change every two  to four years. She wondered if                                                                    
the adjustment  could be made  via regulation and  grants in                                                                    
the budgetary process.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Edgmon   replied  that  ideally  there   would  be                                                                    
fiberoptic cable available in the  next several years in the                                                                    
middle and final  mile capacity to schools far  and wide. He                                                                    
remarked there was  a fiscal note attached to  the bill that                                                                    
was eyepopping in number, but it  was a number that built in                                                                    
all of the schools qualifying  for the program if they could                                                                    
get infrastructure  in place. He  considered the  current E-                                                                    
rate  program as  a bridge  program so  that going  into the                                                                    
future there  should not have  to be numerous  iterations of                                                                    
the bill going forward. He thought  it could be the case for                                                                    
some  small schools  that could  not take  advantage of  the                                                                    
federal    funding   coming    in   through    the   federal                                                                    
Infrastructure Investment and Jobs Act (IIJA).                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
2:34:45 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Foster  noted that Representative Stapp  had joined                                                                    
the meeting.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative Galvin  stated the  topic was  relatively new                                                                    
to  her,  although she  was  familiar  with E-rate  and  its                                                                    
importance  to rural  Alaska. She  believed the  legislation                                                                    
referred  to more  than 20  school  districts. She  presumed                                                                    
they were  school districts that  had historically  used and                                                                    
needed  extra  support  for  internet.   She  asked  if  her                                                                    
statement was accurate.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Edgmon replied  affirmatively.  He explained  that                                                                    
much of  the internet had  been satellite driven  or through                                                                    
microwave  transmission  and   perhaps  fiberoptic  in  some                                                                    
smaller  instances for  online  school.  He elaborated  that                                                                    
fiberoptic  cable  was  finding  its  way  down  the  Yukon-                                                                    
Kuskokwim (YK) region in the  next couple of years. He added                                                                    
that Quintillion  line was  being laid  around the  state up                                                                    
north and in  Co-Chair Foster's region. He  remarked that it                                                                    
would be  fiber optic driven and  a lot of schools  would be                                                                    
able to enjoy  the same amount of broadband  that schools in                                                                    
urban Alaska  provide. He  had been  told recently  that the                                                                    
broadband used  in the Capitol Building  was several hundred                                                                    
megabytes  per  second.  The bill  talked  about  getting  a                                                                    
school  (e.g.,   Nome-Beltz  High   School  with   500  plus                                                                    
students) to maybe 100 megabytes.  He stated there was still                                                                    
a  lot of  catching  up  to do.  He  was optimistic  because                                                                    
hopefully in  the future it  would not be as  funding source                                                                    
challenged as it was in the past.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
2:36:52 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative Galvin surmised the  bill aimed to ensure the                                                                    
minimum  speed was  met  in the  school  districts and  that                                                                    
funding was available.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Edgmon answered,  "To qualify  through the  E-rate                                                                    
program." He  added there  may be  other means  that schools                                                                    
used. He explained they were  talking about a lot of schools                                                                    
across the  state. He relayed  that his staff  could provide                                                                    
an exact number.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Galvin  underscored  the importance  of  the                                                                    
issue.  She   knew  that  many   districts  would   like  to                                                                    
participate in opportunities for  online learning, but after                                                                    
signing  up they  did  not  have the  bandwidth  to make  it                                                                    
happen. She appreciated providing a  bit more equity for all                                                                    
of Alaska's students.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Foster  noted  Co-Chair  Johnson  had  joined  the                                                                    
meeting.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Representative Cronk looked at the  fiscal note and asked if                                                                    
the installation of fiber optic  would eliminate or decrease                                                                    
the need for the funds in the note.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Edgmon answered  that  the number  [in the  fiscal                                                                    
note]  projected outward  as if  every school  qualified for                                                                    
the  federal E-rate  program and  had the  infrastructure to                                                                    
participate in  the delivery of  service. He relayed  that a                                                                    
provider  had cautioned  earlier in  the day  that it  would                                                                    
take time.  The number was at  the ceiling of what  could be                                                                    
out  there. In  the meantime,  fiber optic  cable was  going                                                                    
through the  Dillingham region and  extended up  through the                                                                    
YK region  and Bethel area.  He remarked it would  take some                                                                    
of  the  schools  off  the  list  that  would  otherwise  be                                                                    
competing for the federal E-rate money.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
2:39:01 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Edgmon thanked the committee  for hearing the bill.                                                                    
He  stressed  the importance  of  the  issue and  hoped  and                                                                    
looked  forward  to an  additional  hearing  perhaps of  the                                                                    
Senate bill.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
HB  193  was  HEARD  and   HELD  in  committee  for  further                                                                    
consideration.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
2:39:49 PM                                                                                                                    
AT EASE                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
2:42:45 PM                                                                                                                    
RECONVENED                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                

Document Name Date/Time Subjects
HB 89 Presentation v.3.pdf HFIN 5/11/2023 1:30:00 PM
HB 89